The future of my fight with telecom lies at this point with the employment relations authority member this will bring it is rightful conclusion or if not, more challenges to be over come
Part of me will thankful that it may be concluded however I am unsure as to how much the employment authority can do for me
Yes they can address the employment issues ,who addresses and gets the participants charged for misdemeanours under the crimes act, the fraud and the deception ,the defamation and the breach of my human rights .
I have concluded I will just take it one step at a time and see what unfolds .and deal with that ,left unattended ,to as the need arises
The least initial deviation from the truth is multiplied later a thousand fold. ~Aristotle
A lie may take care of the present, but it has no future. ~Author Unknown
Truth fears no questions. ~Unknown
When truth is divided, errors multiply. ~Eli Siegel,
Always tell the truth. If you can't always tell the truth, don't lie. ~Author Unknown
Wednesday, March 16, 2011
Monday, March 14, 2011
comments from a loyal and astute follower
Well, well, well a very intriguing turn of events I must say. It perplexes many to see the consistent departure of experienced staff, it perplexes me not.
comments of an astute follower who is not perplexed by the consistent departure of experienced staff
a follower whose support and friendship is both welcomed and valued who reads me very clearly and whos ethos morals ethics mirror mine .no words have to be spoken as we regonised our shared outlook from our first contact
I am not perplexed either as i have watch this game played more than a number of time in the pasts
ask youself are they forwarned or forearmed or do they just intolerent of the change of culture and sickened by the weakness of their managers and the lack of overall support or may just leaving early before they get stabbed in the back
they will not be perplexed but they maybe astonished when if matters proceed according to employment law, they may well see the reappearance of my good self within their work environment . questions will be asked of me , answered as always truthfully by me as, I will not be gagged .
The supporting evidence will as always be noted copied to my blog , the dishonesty revealed and the reason for the departure of a number of the management structure become apparent
A national manager in an email, recovered under the auspices of the privacy act, (find the censor of the documents they covered themselves but hung the rest of you out to dry big time) was delighted that I lost in my last appeal re my dismissal an communicated same to all, far and wide committing defamation, in writing with some of the emails written as did more than a number of others
they will not be delighted when all become aware of the latest turn of events and their numb brains start to deal with the ramifications of their earlier actions if I am successful
the issues under scrutiny have already been listed fraud deception defamation and breach of my human rights plus numerous breaches of employment law
what will be interesting is if once some or all a sacked .whether they will have the support of telecoms legal team or any of the hr team on who’s guidance they relied and who seriously let them down
or will telecom abandoned them which means they have to fund thier own defence from which failure will bring about further costs
will they last the distance the stress will impact on their relationships, their finances , their emotions their mental health thier confidence almost everything up to and including the loss of asserts
re read some of the last couple of blogs or pass them to a lawyer if things turn against you all . you are in for a couple of very bad years
for using micro-management on me I’m returning the favour remember the mantra GRITFT . YOU SHOULD HAVE ,YOU DIDNT AND WITH FAILURE THERE IS A COST
comments of an astute follower who is not perplexed by the consistent departure of experienced staff
a follower whose support and friendship is both welcomed and valued who reads me very clearly and whos ethos morals ethics mirror mine .no words have to be spoken as we regonised our shared outlook from our first contact
I am not perplexed either as i have watch this game played more than a number of time in the pasts
ask youself are they forwarned or forearmed or do they just intolerent of the change of culture and sickened by the weakness of their managers and the lack of overall support or may just leaving early before they get stabbed in the back
they will not be perplexed but they maybe astonished when if matters proceed according to employment law, they may well see the reappearance of my good self within their work environment . questions will be asked of me , answered as always truthfully by me as, I will not be gagged .
The supporting evidence will as always be noted copied to my blog , the dishonesty revealed and the reason for the departure of a number of the management structure become apparent
A national manager in an email, recovered under the auspices of the privacy act, (find the censor of the documents they covered themselves but hung the rest of you out to dry big time) was delighted that I lost in my last appeal re my dismissal an communicated same to all, far and wide committing defamation, in writing with some of the emails written as did more than a number of others
they will not be delighted when all become aware of the latest turn of events and their numb brains start to deal with the ramifications of their earlier actions if I am successful
the issues under scrutiny have already been listed fraud deception defamation and breach of my human rights plus numerous breaches of employment law
what will be interesting is if once some or all a sacked .whether they will have the support of telecoms legal team or any of the hr team on who’s guidance they relied and who seriously let them down
or will telecom abandoned them which means they have to fund thier own defence from which failure will bring about further costs
will they last the distance the stress will impact on their relationships, their finances , their emotions their mental health thier confidence almost everything up to and including the loss of asserts
re read some of the last couple of blogs or pass them to a lawyer if things turn against you all . you are in for a couple of very bad years
for using micro-management on me I’m returning the favour remember the mantra GRITFT . YOU SHOULD HAVE ,YOU DIDNT AND WITH FAILURE THERE IS A COST
Sunday, March 13, 2011
the truth will set you free but first you got to get someone to listern
With the employment relations authority now acting on the question of jurisdiction ,the events that have been part of my life for the past 18 months are now under the scrutiny of an outside agency.
I have achieved the first of the many requirements of the quest to restore my good name
My resolve to achieve my aim has not weakened, now I must wait patiently for the outcome, trusting in the law and the sound legal judgement and knowledge of the authority member who will make the ruling ,
The pendulum as moved ever so slightly in my favour .the important thing is the inertia has been broken and we have movement
We will now be set adrift in to perhaps troubled waters which will have ramifications for all participants beyond their wildest imagination
People will question their loyalty to the company and the hollowness of HR promise to protect them at all costs uttered at the boot camp those many months ago. this real life under real law with real consequences there is no get out of jail free card from HR they are no longer in control of the game
if the senario plays out in my fasvour the witness list will be long, all will be under subpoena the question deep searching and repetative the choices will be simple tell the truth or lie . lie you lose your job and your freedom for commiting perjury tell the truth you lose your job restore your soul and have a clear conscience
the truth will set you free but first you got to get someone to listern well someones is listerning and they have the power in law to hold telecom to account will keep you posted as always
Current Telecom participants
Bridgette Dalzell :current head of outsourced customer care at telecom New Zealand whom is Michelle Young's direct report at time of incident
Michelle Young :call centre manager Hamilton call centre, whom is Shaun Hoults direct report at time of incidents
Shaun Hoult: team manager weekend team Sat-Tues Hamilton
Iain Galloway HR representative for in Hamilton
Hannah Sullivan HR representative head office
I have achieved the first of the many requirements of the quest to restore my good name
My resolve to achieve my aim has not weakened, now I must wait patiently for the outcome, trusting in the law and the sound legal judgement and knowledge of the authority member who will make the ruling ,
The pendulum as moved ever so slightly in my favour .the important thing is the inertia has been broken and we have movement
We will now be set adrift in to perhaps troubled waters which will have ramifications for all participants beyond their wildest imagination
People will question their loyalty to the company and the hollowness of HR promise to protect them at all costs uttered at the boot camp those many months ago. this real life under real law with real consequences there is no get out of jail free card from HR they are no longer in control of the game
if the senario plays out in my fasvour the witness list will be long, all will be under subpoena the question deep searching and repetative the choices will be simple tell the truth or lie . lie you lose your job and your freedom for commiting perjury tell the truth you lose your job restore your soul and have a clear conscience
the truth will set you free but first you got to get someone to listern well someones is listerning and they have the power in law to hold telecom to account will keep you posted as always
Current Telecom participants
Bridgette Dalzell :current head of outsourced customer care at telecom New Zealand whom is Michelle Young's direct report at time of incident
Michelle Young :call centre manager Hamilton call centre, whom is Shaun Hoults direct report at time of incidents
Shaun Hoult: team manager weekend team Sat-Tues Hamilton
Iain Galloway HR representative for in Hamilton
Hannah Sullivan HR representative head office
Friday, March 11, 2011
a comment deserving of its own post
This is all very interesting ...and should you be successful and I wish you the best of luck.
So if fraud and deception and thus subsequent defamation has occurred...which crime is then acted on by the courts, and which requires you to pursue, and which are able to be actioned and how
Is it a liability that is held jointly and severally...I think that it is...
One would need to determine whether the subsequent defamation can then be pursued on both and individual and also separately on a collective basis.
I remain watchful
thank you for the good wishes and the sage advice
mmm who watches the watchers and does ERA pursue it on my behalf
does telecom pursue them charge them and sack them as it thier employees that may have committed the illegal acts and brought the company into disrepute
not a good time for some when you are in the middle of applying for your own job back
and if the job is lost is the legal protection lost lots of ramifcations
will have to dump an A/P on them before the shredders overload
messy and complicated
So if fraud and deception and thus subsequent defamation has occurred...which crime is then acted on by the courts, and which requires you to pursue, and which are able to be actioned and how
Is it a liability that is held jointly and severally...I think that it is...
One would need to determine whether the subsequent defamation can then be pursued on both and individual and also separately on a collective basis.
I remain watchful
thank you for the good wishes and the sage advice
mmm who watches the watchers and does ERA pursue it on my behalf
does telecom pursue them charge them and sack them as it thier employees that may have committed the illegal acts and brought the company into disrepute
not a good time for some when you are in the middle of applying for your own job back
and if the job is lost is the legal protection lost lots of ramifcations
will have to dump an A/P on them before the shredders overload
messy and complicated
recieved a minute from the authority VERY GOOD NEWS
File Number 5315212
IN THE EMPLOYMENT RELATIONS AUTHORITY
AUCKLAND
BETWEEN PAUL EVANS-MCLE0j)
Applicant
AND TELECOM NEW ZEALAND
LIMITED
Respondent
Member of Authority: K J Anderson
Date: 11 March2011
MINUTE OF THE AUThORITY
The Authority is now in possession of a considerable amount of material relating to the claims of Mr Evans-McLeod, as set out in his Statement of Problem received by the Authority on 10th August 2010.
Via an email dated13th September 2010. I recorded that as Mr Evans-McLeod was awaiting information from the office of the Privacy Commissioner, the investigation of the Authority was suspended until the situation became clearer. On 9th January 2011, Mr Evans-McLeod requested that the Authority ~"reopen” the file and he forwarded further material for consideration. This was forwarded to Mr Rooney, acting for the respondent, and he responded on 28th January 2011.
As has been discussed previously, given the history of this dispute, there remains a jurisdictional issue as to whether Mr Evans~McLeod is able to pursue his claims in the Authority. I conclude that the matter of whether or not the Authority has jurisdiction, pertaining Mr Evans-McLeod’s claims, must be treated as a preliminary issue for determination before those claims can be investigated further.
It is my intention to determine the issue of jurisdiction on the papers currently before the Authority. While it is my preliminary conclusion that no further material or submissions are required, if the parties take issue with that view, any summary of argument, regardingthe jurisdictional issue only, must be filed simultaneously, with the Authority, by 31 March 2011.
K J Anderson
Member of the Employment Relations Authority
So what does ALL this mean
It means they are required to look into the circumstances around my dismissal
The information i sent to them and that they are referring to is on my blog its the 35 page submission with 34 attachments
The essential element is the jurisdiction issues
When they forced me to resign i signed away all my rights, the matter was finished with ,signed sealed delivered and telecom thought that was the end of it
But as you know i found out they acted dishonestly by intimating that they had a letter of complaint from a handicapped girl that said i was "condescending and rude'
it didnt exist there was no letter it was a fraud and deception
MOST IMPORTANTLY IT IS ILLEGAL
So what this letter is saying is the ERA is now required to investigate in law whether that act of dishonestly and others i highlighted negates/nullifies the original settlements i signed
My information from my learned lawyer friend says it does
So telecom now has to present their argument as to why it should not by the 31th of match
If it comes back in my favour its a whole new ball game
THE IMPORTANT POINT IS THAT THEY RECOGNISE THE VALIDITY OF MY ARGUEMENT AND THE REGONISE THEY HAVE TO MAKE A RULING .IT IS UP TO TELECOM AT NO COST TO ME (OH BUGGER) TO PERSUADE THE AUTHORITY THAT DISHONESTY IN THE DISCIPLINARY PROCESS IS ALLOWABLE AND ACCEPTABLE
I DONT THINK SO
IF I AM FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE A RULING IN MY FAVOUR THERE IS GOING TO BE A HUGE UPROAR AS ALL OTHER DISCIPLINARY PROCESS PERPERTRATED BY ALL THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN MY DISMISSAL WILL HAVE TO BE RE -EVALUATED WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB TO ENSURE THAT JUSTICE WAS NOT ONLY ,DONE BUT IT WAS SEEN TO BE DONE
PLUS CONSIDERATION WILL HAVE TO BE GIVEN AS TO WHETHER A CRIME WAS COMMITTED SUCH AS FRAUD OR DECEPTION UNDER THE CRIMES ACT
CONSIDERATION MAY HAVE TO BE GIVEN AS WHO WAS CUPABLE UNDER SAME ACT
ALL PARTIES BROUGHT IT ON THEMSELVES THEY WHERE THE ONES WHO ACTED ILLEAGALLY I NOT COUNTING MY CHICKENS BEFORE THEY HAVE HATCHED
HOWEVER IT WILL BE INTERESTING PRECEDENT IN LAW IF THEY GET AWAY WITH ACTING DISHONESTLY
SOME COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN RECIEVED
Good luck mate. I hope the ruling goes in your favour and that there is some rethinking on how the whole HR community think they can bully people into submission.
Wow.
The fight is still on then.
Good one Paul.
You go Paul
IN THE EMPLOYMENT RELATIONS AUTHORITY
AUCKLAND
BETWEEN PAUL EVANS-MCLE0j)
Applicant
AND TELECOM NEW ZEALAND
LIMITED
Respondent
Member of Authority: K J Anderson
Date: 11 March2011
MINUTE OF THE AUThORITY
The Authority is now in possession of a considerable amount of material relating to the claims of Mr Evans-McLeod, as set out in his Statement of Problem received by the Authority on 10th August 2010.
Via an email dated13th September 2010. I recorded that as Mr Evans-McLeod was awaiting information from the office of the Privacy Commissioner, the investigation of the Authority was suspended until the situation became clearer. On 9th January 2011, Mr Evans-McLeod requested that the Authority ~"reopen” the file and he forwarded further material for consideration. This was forwarded to Mr Rooney, acting for the respondent, and he responded on 28th January 2011.
As has been discussed previously, given the history of this dispute, there remains a jurisdictional issue as to whether Mr Evans~McLeod is able to pursue his claims in the Authority. I conclude that the matter of whether or not the Authority has jurisdiction, pertaining Mr Evans-McLeod’s claims, must be treated as a preliminary issue for determination before those claims can be investigated further.
It is my intention to determine the issue of jurisdiction on the papers currently before the Authority. While it is my preliminary conclusion that no further material or submissions are required, if the parties take issue with that view, any summary of argument, regardingthe jurisdictional issue only, must be filed simultaneously, with the Authority, by 31 March 2011.
K J Anderson
Member of the Employment Relations Authority
So what does ALL this mean
It means they are required to look into the circumstances around my dismissal
The information i sent to them and that they are referring to is on my blog its the 35 page submission with 34 attachments
The essential element is the jurisdiction issues
When they forced me to resign i signed away all my rights, the matter was finished with ,signed sealed delivered and telecom thought that was the end of it
But as you know i found out they acted dishonestly by intimating that they had a letter of complaint from a handicapped girl that said i was "condescending and rude'
it didnt exist there was no letter it was a fraud and deception
MOST IMPORTANTLY IT IS ILLEGAL
So what this letter is saying is the ERA is now required to investigate in law whether that act of dishonestly and others i highlighted negates/nullifies the original settlements i signed
My information from my learned lawyer friend says it does
So telecom now has to present their argument as to why it should not by the 31th of match
If it comes back in my favour its a whole new ball game
THE IMPORTANT POINT IS THAT THEY RECOGNISE THE VALIDITY OF MY ARGUEMENT AND THE REGONISE THEY HAVE TO MAKE A RULING .IT IS UP TO TELECOM AT NO COST TO ME (OH BUGGER) TO PERSUADE THE AUTHORITY THAT DISHONESTY IN THE DISCIPLINARY PROCESS IS ALLOWABLE AND ACCEPTABLE
I DONT THINK SO
IF I AM FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE A RULING IN MY FAVOUR THERE IS GOING TO BE A HUGE UPROAR AS ALL OTHER DISCIPLINARY PROCESS PERPERTRATED BY ALL THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN MY DISMISSAL WILL HAVE TO BE RE -EVALUATED WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB TO ENSURE THAT JUSTICE WAS NOT ONLY ,DONE BUT IT WAS SEEN TO BE DONE
PLUS CONSIDERATION WILL HAVE TO BE GIVEN AS TO WHETHER A CRIME WAS COMMITTED SUCH AS FRAUD OR DECEPTION UNDER THE CRIMES ACT
CONSIDERATION MAY HAVE TO BE GIVEN AS WHO WAS CUPABLE UNDER SAME ACT
ALL PARTIES BROUGHT IT ON THEMSELVES THEY WHERE THE ONES WHO ACTED ILLEAGALLY I NOT COUNTING MY CHICKENS BEFORE THEY HAVE HATCHED
HOWEVER IT WILL BE INTERESTING PRECEDENT IN LAW IF THEY GET AWAY WITH ACTING DISHONESTLY
SOME COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN RECIEVED
Good luck mate. I hope the ruling goes in your favour and that there is some rethinking on how the whole HR community think they can bully people into submission.
Wow.
The fight is still on then.
Good one Paul.
You go Paul
Good luck pal, I've got my nuts crossed for ya.
when your famous for bringing down telecom can i still be your friend
Yay!!! Paul! That is awesome news mate!
Current Telecom participants
Bridgette Dalzell :current head of outsourced customer care at telecom New Zealand whom is Michelle Young's direct report at time of incident
Michelle Young :call centre manager Hamilton call centre, whom is Shaun Hoults direct report at time of incidents
Shaun Hoult: team manager weekend team Sat-Tues Hamilton
Iain Galloway HR representative for in Hamilton
Hannah Sullivan HR representative head office
Current Telecom participants
Bridgette Dalzell :current head of outsourced customer care at telecom New Zealand whom is Michelle Young's direct report at time of incident
Michelle Young :call centre manager Hamilton call centre, whom is Shaun Hoults direct report at time of incidents
Shaun Hoult: team manager weekend team Sat-Tues Hamilton
Iain Galloway HR representative for in Hamilton
Hannah Sullivan HR representative head office
Tuesday, February 8, 2011
little time
what a fun day was at the base at the post office ran across my old boss the site manager michelle young she acknowledged me i acknowledged her
she asked how i was
i said i will see you in court and walked away
i have little time for people who lack honesty and integrity
Current Telecom participants
Bridgette Dalzell :current head of outsourced customer care at telecom New Zealand whom is Michelle Young's direct report at time of incident
Michelle Young :call centre manager Hamilton call centre, whom is Shaun Hoults direct report at time of incidents
Shaun Hoult: team manager weekend team Sat-Tues Hamilton
Iain Galloway HR representative for in Hamilton
Hannah Sullivan HR representative head office
she asked how i was
i said i will see you in court and walked away
i have little time for people who lack honesty and integrity
Current Telecom participants
Bridgette Dalzell :current head of outsourced customer care at telecom New Zealand whom is Michelle Young's direct report at time of incident
Michelle Young :call centre manager Hamilton call centre, whom is Shaun Hoults direct report at time of incidents
Shaun Hoult: team manager weekend team Sat-Tues Hamilton
Iain Galloway HR representative for in Hamilton
Hannah Sullivan HR representative head office
Friday, February 4, 2011
the brand
Anyone who understands advertising knows that repetition is the key to creating a 'brand.' Unfortunately with all of the reports of greed, dishonesty and incompetence, the CEO brand is now pretty well established."
some people by thier own actions, have now, that we have uncovered the truth, written in thier own words and then foolishly signed them off as a true an correct record. branded themselves for now and eternity for what they really are
which is people that lack honesty, intregrity, and loyalty and will lie and cheat to preserve thier position of power
which is people that lack honesty, intregrity, and loyalty and will lie and cheat to preserve thier position of power
it gets really interesting, when the same people attain postions of power over people, then admonish them and or sack them for precived misdemeanors
When if telecom had done thier due diligence on thier past, they would find that the real reason for leaving thier previous employers where matters pertaining to fraud,
Yet they now have open access to telecoms databases ,yes its one of the team leaders
Yet they now have open access to telecoms databases ,yes its one of the team leaders
so when all said and done the question all ways remains
who watchers the watchers
Current Telecom participants
Bridgette Dalzell :current head of outsourced customer care at telecom New Zealand whom is Michelle Young's direct report at time of incident
Michelle Young :call centre manager Hamilton call centre, whom is Shaun Hoults direct report at time of incidents
Shaun Hoult: team manager weekend team Sat-Tues Hamilton
Iain Galloway HR representative for in Hamilton
Hannah Sullivan HR representative head office
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